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| − | + | <h4>Bonnie Obremski discussed the [http://newshare.com/wiki/index.php/Lunchstorm-repj RepJ Project] of Northfield, Minn., during a "LunchStorm" talk on Dec. 5, 2008 at the Donald W. Reynolds Journalism Institute at the University of Missouri, Columbia. Here's a replay of Chuck Peter's CoveritLive.com session.</h4> | |
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*12:11 Chuck Peters: When Representative Journalism Project started this summer, in Northfield, MN, in addition to local paper and calendar websites at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/ | *12:11 Chuck Peters: When Representative Journalism Project started this summer, in Northfield, MN, in addition to local paper and calendar websites at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/ | ||
*12:14 cpetersia: #RepJ @bonnieobremski describing using momentum of existing blog to launch community website at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/ | *12:14 cpetersia: #RepJ @bonnieobremski describing using momentum of existing blog to launch community website at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/ | ||
*12:14 Chuck Peters: Bob Brown - What is business model? | *12:14 Chuck Peters: Bob Brown - What is business model? | ||
| − | *12:14 | + | *12:14 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Still working on business model. Kachingle might be an option, coming out next month. |
| − | Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Still working on business model. Kachingle might be an option, coming out next month. | ||
*12:15 Chuck Peters: This might work in Northfield, but might be more successful for communities not covered by media | *12:15 Chuck Peters: This might work in Northfield, but might be more successful for communities not covered by media | ||
*12:16 Chuck Peters: Project originator picked Northfield. | *12:16 Chuck Peters: Project originator picked Northfield. | ||
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*12:18 Chuck Peters: Project only 5 months old | *12:18 Chuck Peters: Project only 5 months old | ||
*12:19 Chuck Peters: Reaction from local weekly? They believe they are serving the community, so could not see fit. | *12:19 Chuck Peters: Reaction from local weekly? They believe they are serving the community, so could not see fit. | ||
| − | *12:19 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | + | *12:19 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- when someone says something is popular, what is the measurement scale? At what point is something another echo-chamber or a new diverse source of reporting? |
| − | when someone says something is popular, what is the measurement scale? At what point is something another echo-chamber or a new diverse source of reporting? | ||
*12:19 Chuck Peters: Community members - get stories and follow up that others cannot provide. | *12:19 Chuck Peters: Community members - get stories and follow up that others cannot provide. | ||
*12:21 Chuck Peters: Bonnie has to be multimedia, and has to do it all, to make this work. | *12:21 Chuck Peters: Bonnie has to be multimedia, and has to do it all, to make this work. | ||
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*12:22 Chuck Peters: How would this affect journalism education? | *12:22 Chuck Peters: How would this affect journalism education? | ||
*12:23 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Feels close to community - representing them, not advertisers. Professors should stress skills of blogging, as bloggers are one person shows. | *12:23 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Feels close to community - representing them, not advertisers. Professors should stress skills of blogging, as bloggers are one person shows. | ||
| − | *12:23 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | + | *12:23 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- "I think there is space for us," there is space for everyone now, that's what's wonderful, what's hard on business is that there's no space for one company any more...this is a great example, by a journalist with passion |
| − | "I think there is space for us," there is space for everyone now, that's what's wonderful, what's hard on business is that there's no space for one company any more...this is a great example, by a journalist with passion | ||
*12:27 Chuck Peters: Can someone blog personally and professionally without appearance of conflict? | *12:27 Chuck Peters: Can someone blog personally and professionally without appearance of conflict? | ||
| − | *12:29 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | + | *12:29 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- hum, good question, what's puzzling is that all reporting seems to be converging with personal voice/commentary -- inverted pyramid is a snorrr |
| − | hum, good question, what's puzzling is that all reporting seems to be converging with personal voice/commentary -- inverted pyramid is a snorrr | ||
*12:29 Chuck Peters: Are people humoring me because I am friendly, like people, and people want to support a "young person"'s project? | *12:29 Chuck Peters: Are people humoring me because I am friendly, like people, and people want to support a "young person"'s project? | ||
*12:31 Chuck Peters: How is RepJ different from regular journalism? Online, transparent, two way conversation, multi-media. Regular newspaper site - comment on stories. | *12:31 Chuck Peters: How is RepJ different from regular journalism? Online, transparent, two way conversation, multi-media. Regular newspaper site - comment on stories. | ||
*12:31 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Need way to sort through comments. | *12:31 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Need way to sort through comments. | ||
| − | *12:31 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | + | *12:31 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- today's young person's project is tomorrows media empire |
| − | today's young person's project is tomorrows media empire | ||
*12:33 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | *12:33 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | ||
have been working on some comment crawlers and topic extraction with a colleague: http://giladlotan.com/news/prop8 | have been working on some comment crawlers and topic extraction with a colleague: http://giladlotan.com/news/prop8 | ||
*12:33 Chuck Peters: Josh - Working on RepJ, highlights how quickly a story develops, and how much work is performed quickly | *12:33 Chuck Peters: Josh - Working on RepJ, highlights how quickly a story develops, and how much work is performed quickly | ||
| − | *12:34 [Comment From Abe Abreu] | + | [[Image:Obremski-screen.jpg|400px|thumb|left|[Locally Grown on screen at RJI-Mizzou]] |
| − | I think all Journalists should read Free Agent Nation by Dan Pink. The future of trust is about the personal brand - not corporate brands. | + | *12:34 [Comment From Abe Abreu] -- I think all Journalists should read Free Agent Nation by Dan Pink. The future of trust is about the personal brand - not corporate brands. |
*12:35 cpetersia: #RepJ Watching video of Northfield community issues at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/5646/ | *12:35 cpetersia: #RepJ Watching video of Northfield community issues at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/5646/ | ||
| − | *12:35 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | + | *12:35 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- here's another extract on earthquake: http://giladlotan.com/news/earthquake/ --> sorry to be off on a tangent |
| − | here's another extract on earthquake: http://giladlotan.com/news/earthquake/ --> sorry to be off on a tangent | ||
*12:35 Chuck Peters: Project is funded by grant from foundation. | *12:35 Chuck Peters: Project is funded by grant from foundation. | ||
*12:36 Chuck Peters: Uses copy editor now, from Northfield | *12:36 Chuck Peters: Uses copy editor now, from Northfield | ||
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*12:40 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - mentions idea of "personal branding", just tweeted by Abe Abreu. | *12:40 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - mentions idea of "personal branding", just tweeted by Abe Abreu. | ||
*12:42 Chuck Peters: What is the function of the local news organization in organizing local bloggers. Aggregating local trust, not just stories. | *12:42 Chuck Peters: What is the function of the local news organization in organizing local bloggers. Aggregating local trust, not just stories. | ||
| − | *12:43 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] | + | *12:43 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- trust aggregator not just a story aggregator...nice concept abe |
| − | trust aggregator not just a story aggregator...nice concept abe | ||
*12:45 Chuck Peters: Quality, transparency, accuracy compared to life in a daily? Everyone has their own truth - try to get context. Should track errors. | *12:45 Chuck Peters: Quality, transparency, accuracy compared to life in a daily? Everyone has their own truth - try to get context. Should track errors. | ||
*12:49 Chuck Peters: Chuck Peters asked if local media company could use this model within communities it serves. Yes! | *12:49 Chuck Peters: Chuck Peters asked if local media company could use this model within communities it serves. Yes! | ||
Latest revision as of 06:40, 7 December 2008
Bonnie Obremski discussed the RepJ Project of Northfield, Minn., during a "LunchStorm" talk on Dec. 5, 2008 at the Donald W. Reynolds Journalism Institute at the University of Missouri, Columbia. Here's a replay of Chuck Peter's CoveritLive.com session.
- 12:11 Chuck Peters: When Representative Journalism Project started this summer, in Northfield, MN, in addition to local paper and calendar websites at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/
- 12:14 cpetersia: #RepJ @bonnieobremski describing using momentum of existing blog to launch community website at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/
- 12:14 Chuck Peters: Bob Brown - What is business model?
- 12:14 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Still working on business model. Kachingle might be an option, coming out next month.
- 12:15 Chuck Peters: This might work in Northfield, but might be more successful for communities not covered by media
- 12:16 Chuck Peters: Project originator picked Northfield.
- 12:17 Chuck Peters: Existing blog was key factor in location decision.
- 12:18 Chuck Peters: Project only 5 months old
- 12:19 Chuck Peters: Reaction from local weekly? They believe they are serving the community, so could not see fit.
- 12:19 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- when someone says something is popular, what is the measurement scale? At what point is something another echo-chamber or a new diverse source of reporting?
- 12:19 Chuck Peters: Community members - get stories and follow up that others cannot provide.
- 12:21 Chuck Peters: Bonnie has to be multimedia, and has to do it all, to make this work.
- 12:21 Chuck Peters: Not just trying to get content up there, trying to develop model.
- 12:22 Chuck Peters: How would this affect journalism education?
- 12:23 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Feels close to community - representing them, not advertisers. Professors should stress skills of blogging, as bloggers are one person shows.
- 12:23 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- "I think there is space for us," there is space for everyone now, that's what's wonderful, what's hard on business is that there's no space for one company any more...this is a great example, by a journalist with passion
- 12:27 Chuck Peters: Can someone blog personally and professionally without appearance of conflict?
- 12:29 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- hum, good question, what's puzzling is that all reporting seems to be converging with personal voice/commentary -- inverted pyramid is a snorrr
- 12:29 Chuck Peters: Are people humoring me because I am friendly, like people, and people want to support a "young person"'s project?
- 12:31 Chuck Peters: How is RepJ different from regular journalism? Online, transparent, two way conversation, multi-media. Regular newspaper site - comment on stories.
- 12:31 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - Need way to sort through comments.
- 12:31 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- today's young person's project is tomorrows media empire
- 12:33 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder]
have been working on some comment crawlers and topic extraction with a colleague: http://giladlotan.com/news/prop8
- 12:33 Chuck Peters: Josh - Working on RepJ, highlights how quickly a story develops, and how much work is performed quickly
- 12:34 [Comment From Abe Abreu] -- I think all Journalists should read Free Agent Nation by Dan Pink. The future of trust is about the personal brand - not corporate brands.
- 12:35 cpetersia: #RepJ Watching video of Northfield community issues at http://locallygrownnorthfield.org/post/5646/
- 12:35 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- here's another extract on earthquake: http://giladlotan.com/news/earthquake/ --> sorry to be off on a tangent
- 12:35 Chuck Peters: Project is funded by grant from foundation.
- 12:36 Chuck Peters: Uses copy editor now, from Northfield
- 12:37 thinkbigsmaller: I think Journo-geeks should read Dan Pink's Free Agent Nation. Future is about the trust of personal brands, not corporate.
- 12:37 Chuck Peters: To journalism students - does this type of project appeal to you?
- 12:39 Chuck Peters: One from MN interested. Another notes that those reporters who blog are more connected to community.
- 12:40 Chuck Peters: Bonnie - mentions idea of "personal branding", just tweeted by Abe Abreu.
- 12:42 Chuck Peters: What is the function of the local news organization in organizing local bloggers. Aggregating local trust, not just stories.
- 12:43 [Comment From Elizabeth Osder] -- trust aggregator not just a story aggregator...nice concept abe
- 12:45 Chuck Peters: Quality, transparency, accuracy compared to life in a daily? Everyone has their own truth - try to get context. Should track errors.
- 12:49 Chuck Peters: Chuck Peters asked if local media company could use this model within communities it serves. Yes!
- 12:51 Chuck Peters: Martin Langeveld asked same question - this could work. He blogs about these issues at http://newsafternewspapers.blogspot.com/
- 12:52 Chuck Peters: In some instances, hard to find subject matter experts to cover subjects in a service area.
- 12:53 thinkbigsmaller: Group here receptive to my poke on trust aggregation and role of trusted "community reps" in a free agent model + smaller news room.
- 12:55 cpetersia: RT @thinkbigsmaller #RepJ receptive to my poke on trust aggregation and role of trusted "community reps" in a free agent model
- 12:56 Chuck Peters: Experimenting with form of journalism and relationship with community before asking anyone to pay for it. Community expresses support.
- 12:56 Chuck Peters: Can you use NPR model?
- 12:56 Chuck Peters: Any other ideas for operation or funding?
- 1:01 Chuck Peters: It is a wrap! Thanks Bonnie, and Bill!
- 1:01 cpetersia: Wrapping up #RepJ session with lots of ideas for expanded WordPress uses. See http://cpetersia.wordpress.com for replay of live blog
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